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Max Cossack's avatar

Under former Obama appointee and current failure Jonathan Greenblatt's leadership of the ADL, the ADL bent over to please the hard left Democrats by supporting every woke campaign and slogan. This did him and the Jewish people he claims to represent no good whatsoever. In the thirties and now, appeasement doesn't work. I can hope Greenblatt has learned his lesson, but it seems unlikely.

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Steven F. Hayward's avatar

I was tempted to remark that the ADL is far from being beyond criticism for the very reason you point out here, but didn't want to complicate the point about the NEA.

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RAM's avatar

Inputs from really Jewish groups never made it into the NEA sphere at all.

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RAM's avatar
Jul 8Edited

It's not as if current ADL officials were beaten over the head to back leftist causes. They are leftists, too.

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Craig Kisciras's avatar

Agree regarding the Epstein List, Prof Hayward. Enough already! With so very many good things happening and yet to happen, why waste time on this? And this nonsense that the "List" is threatening to "tear apart the MAGA coalition" is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of the idiotic media.

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Tim Hurlocker's avatar

However heinous Epstein's crimes, how is that mystery more important than the Russia hoax, Ukrainian impeachment, Hunter's laptop, and the Autopen scandal? Those events threaten our constitutional order. Epstein's "client list" seems a distraction from the justice so richly due those who grasped for undeserved power.

Randall Jerrell is sure right about that rascal Rousseau.

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Rascal Nick Of's avatar

The Epstein files didnt lose themselves.

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RAM's avatar
Jul 8Edited

When I was in college in 1966-72, the most rabid SDS radicals were very white and very well off, from posh suburbs. They were looking for adventure in all the wrong places. One group circulated a flyer extolling Kim Il Sung of North Korea. All forms of violence, except by our armed forces or law enforcement, are OK by these types.

Some MIT archival material:

https://thetech.com/issues/89/53/pdf radical student government leader expelled

https://thetech.com/issues/89/56/pdf takeover of MIT president's office

https://thetech.com/issues/89/57/pdf

https://archivesspace.mit.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/31950 MIT had two SDS factions

https://archivesspace.mit.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/31903

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

For upscale yet alienated (and/or embittered) young white people in the West, it's useful to think of Leftism/Marxism/Wokism in religious terms, because it is meant to play the role that religion once did. Young people who are desperate for a sense of meaning in our postmodern secular world cling to Leftism because it promises them a sense of greater purpose, solidarity, and also psychological relief for their self-hatred.

I read this in a book about the Weathermen:

—"She was 'deeply typical' of the radical movement, the paradigmatic radical—relentlessly pushing at human limits; driven to a fine rage by perceived injustices; searching for personal authenticity in her revolutionary commitments."

Revolutionary politics is a psychodrama for people born at the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, who have never known real struggle, and who pledge their souls to some imaginary egalitarian future much in the same way that our ancestors pledged their souls to God.

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Marty Keller's avatar

You're a gem, Steve!

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Herbert Jacobi's avatar

If Epstein was blackmailing people he would have had to have a "list" of who they were and how to contact them. Maybe he had a very good memory. Has anyone asked his now jailed paramour if she has a list or knows who they were? Has anyone asked the victims if they remember any names or faces? Supposedly these were well know\famous people for the most part. And what about flight logs. John Doe #1, John Doe #2 and so on????

The reasoning is very simple. If he was working for an intelligent agency or agencies then the people (adults) running those knew what he was doing. Honey Pot operations are an old strategy (see Samson & Delia or Mata Hari). Using underage girls is "different". You can't use the line It's Ok because I'm with the CIA or whomever so no harm no foul.

One argument that people in power always use is "it's for the good of......fillintheblank. Priests molesting children. Can't reveal that, it would be bad for the Church. Corrupt Cops? Can't reveal that people will lose faith in the police force. MK Ultra? can't release that people will lose faith in the the CIA. Corrupt FBI agents, can't reveal that people will lose faith in the FBI. And so on and so on and on and on and on.

The reality is it's not about any of that. It's about the people at the top protecting themselves. Always has been, always will be.

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Clark Carter's avatar

It is not surprising that the Democrats are turning violent. Why do so many support the rapists of Gaza? Because they know if they don't they will be on the receiving end of Muslim violence.

The Democrats now want people to know they will be on the receiving end of Leftist violence. It worked for the Muslims, so they figure it will work for them too.

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Max Cossack's avatar

They also have their successful history with the KKK to recall.

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Ralph Fluchel's avatar

I wish you had not reminded me of the Robert Bork disaster. A great justice was rejected because of the Democrat character assassination team (Biden was one of the team). And we got Anthony Kennedy, who turned out to be a complete disaster.

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

So to not use ADL stuff will cost the nEA $1600? Hokay.

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Joseph Shaffer's avatar

Maybe some DNA on Bill Clinton's dress. . .

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The One's avatar

That BernieBros screenshot is pretty good.

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Alex Hernandez's avatar

I see that Democrats have "progressed" beyond wishing death to politicians from the other side to wanting their own politicians dead

Maybe we can find some common ground here…

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Paul Murphy's avatar

The Axios memo is being taken as both real and final - it may be both, but the evidence on that isn't in. I think another shoe will drop on this.

Bondi could, for example, call a press conference and open almost everything she has to public review while announcing charges against a few high profile players - she may not have the evidence, but the process is the point and I have no sympathy for the likes of Comey and any Clinton.

I don't think she will, but she could; and, if she doesn't, we can hope that her successor will. Matt, I think, would have by now.

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Classic Rider's avatar

They can’t charge anyone. Doesn’t matter if it’s a dem, Clinton, or a republican, Bush, loyalist. If someone is charged with anything remotely possible for a conviction, the ensuing release of information will put over 90% of DC in jail (jail, ha ha. Sometimes I amuse myself.) and the government will collapse. And not just our government. It would be an absolute prepper’s dream.

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SilliestString's avatar

The NEA says they're not going to use materials from the ADL and it's going to cost more money not to do so? Sure, makes sense to me.

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Paul murphy's avatar

$1,625? I doubt they can estimate the cost of a breakfast meeting that closely.

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