In many jurisdictions - perhaps most - it is murder if one intentionally or accidentally kills the mother of an unborn baby and as a result the baby dies. That law supports the theory the unborn baby is a living human and subject to, and protected by, the law of the land. Many if not all of those same states permit abortion, the killing of an unborn. Does this mean mothers of unborn babies are the only ordinary citizens in our society who are authorized to commit murder, outside officials in performing their duty?
"that a federal judge could find that natural law prohibited slavery"
Shows a fundamental (or willful) misunderstanding of natural law. In fact, the antebellum congress' runaway slave law, upheld by courts (and notably defied by some few individuals) was a violation of both natural law and of the bill of rights. It required civil disobedience, a civil war and another century or more to correct the fundamental flaw in the constitution.
"I take it — though I am certainly no expert — that natural rights philosophers now believe that human life begins at conception, and that therefore abortion constitutes the taking of a human life. "
Here, you bring up Dobbs again, and again engage in the ad hominem fallacy of arguing against a position that the opponents have not yet stated. The original offense "Here is an example. In their view, Dobbs was wrong because it did not go far enough." is compounded, not withdrawn. Putting words in their mouths, indeed.
The position presented is itself specious: even a non-expert should realize that the mother (and arguably, the acknowledged father) has natural rights - a Smithian "property" - as well.
I'm a long time listener to the various incarnations of podcasts featuring Yoo, Senik, and Epstein. I know you can do better than this.
In many jurisdictions - perhaps most - it is murder if one intentionally or accidentally kills the mother of an unborn baby and as a result the baby dies. That law supports the theory the unborn baby is a living human and subject to, and protected by, the law of the land. Many if not all of those same states permit abortion, the killing of an unborn. Does this mean mothers of unborn babies are the only ordinary citizens in our society who are authorized to commit murder, outside officials in performing their duty?
This exchange of views is getting exciting!
"that a federal judge could find that natural law prohibited slavery"
Shows a fundamental (or willful) misunderstanding of natural law. In fact, the antebellum congress' runaway slave law, upheld by courts (and notably defied by some few individuals) was a violation of both natural law and of the bill of rights. It required civil disobedience, a civil war and another century or more to correct the fundamental flaw in the constitution.
"I take it — though I am certainly no expert — that natural rights philosophers now believe that human life begins at conception, and that therefore abortion constitutes the taking of a human life. "
Here, you bring up Dobbs again, and again engage in the ad hominem fallacy of arguing against a position that the opponents have not yet stated. The original offense "Here is an example. In their view, Dobbs was wrong because it did not go far enough." is compounded, not withdrawn. Putting words in their mouths, indeed.
The position presented is itself specious: even a non-expert should realize that the mother (and arguably, the acknowledged father) has natural rights - a Smithian "property" - as well.
I'm a long time listener to the various incarnations of podcasts featuring Yoo, Senik, and Epstein. I know you can do better than this.