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What Germany and Japan both had was not only highly functional civil societies but a conception, however imperfect, of a polis. These provided a firm foundation upon which to build political institutions that would be accepted as binding by the populace

Contrast that with the three neocon cases of the early 21st Century- Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. None of the three could be considered a functioning polis - all were basically grab bags of various tribes, religions, ethnicities defined by colonial borders largely kept together by strongmen and rule of arms

Compare and contrast (again) the neocon three with the post-Cold War Eastern (Central) Europe which saw the rapid rise of functioning democratic societies.... but only in certain parts. Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia yes - other parts not so much. What's the dividing line? Roughly the furthest advance of the Ottoman Empire.

Of course the neocon conceit about the universal appeal of liberal democracy collapses before it leaves American shores as evidenced by the rise of totalitarian/postmodern Left in America over the past 50 years and our near escape (for now) in 2024.

If you cannot get these things anymore in Canada or California, why do you think you can get them in Kabul? Isn't Kristol an empiricist by training? What say he? What he hasn't said anything?

I wonder if neoconservatism isn't simply a racket in order for some to be to afford pricey real estate in certain northern Virginia suburbs.

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Everyone knows that conservative women are "hot", but @lucretia357 is also stylish and classy. In every photo or live podcast one can see the care & sense of pride she takes in herself, a complete contrast to progressive women (although curiously *elite* progressive ladies in politics & media are usually noticeably well presented - it's as if they don't practice what they preach to the plebs; you can add marriage to the list of hypocrisies as well).

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