I'm compelled to quote Abraham Lincoln: "Elections belong to the people. It's their decision. If they decide to turn their backs on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters."
I'm a Canadian; well, sort of - I'm actually an Albertan.
What happened in this election is that Carney ran against Trump rather than for anything - and the media, which are largely controlled by the liberals, applauded everything he did or said while denigrating the conservatives.
Prior to Carney's ascension to the liberal leadership a week before the election was called, the conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre, had a 30 point lead in the polls - which he'd gained by attacking the then current liberal leader: Justin Trudeau rather than by being for anything.
When the liberals replaced Trudeau with an unknown, Poilievre lost
his target and his focus - and didn't have the guts to do the obvious: embrace
Trumpism, blame the country's problems on the liberals, and promise a freer, more
prosperous, Canada. Instead he vacillated: Canada great rah rah, orange man bad, bad,
bad; all problems to be solved by magic no oxen to be gored.
Bottom line: Carney will quickly agree to renegotiate a trade deal with the US without Mexican participation; Canada will pretend to do something about drugs; money laundering; and Defence; and the slide to "Wanalta - the 51st state" will gradually acccellerate as both Alberta and Saskatchewan push provincial political and economic self-determination to the point of making central Canada's politics irrelevant here.
If I read the results correctly, Albertans elected 34 Conservative MPs out of 37. Alberta is more conservative than Florida. What would or could Canada do about it if Albertans decided to join the U.S as our 51st state?
I suggest we open up an NCAA-like "transfer portal" where contiguous counties in the US and Canada can opt to switch sides. Once a country switches sides, a contiguous county in the US or Canada would be "portal eligible".
Just think how this could play out -- chunks of Minnesota and Washington might op out. This could put sections of of blue Oregon and Wisconsin in play. If the right sections of Wisconsin choose to go Canadian, we could give off Chicago - a fiscal debacle in the making. VT goes in an instant when Bernie sees he could get nationalized health care.
On the flip side, Alberta and many parts of the Canadian "Midwest" could get the type of political system they yearn for. Yes, health care is more complicated, but they'll figure it out.
Realignment is here. Let's let the citizens decide.
Poilievre lost his own constituency. How good a party leadership candidate was he? The largest minor party candidate also lost his constituency. Why did the Quebec party lose seats?
Did that many Canadians decide that a pro-Liberal vote to defeat Trump was the most important issue?
I think more is going on then than the flash analysis.
Keep in mind Carney was quickly dropping in the polls. Had he needed to run as a long a race as Harris, he too many have lost.
There are a lot of good people in Canada that are suffering, not because of Trump, but because of the leadership they select. Its hard to feel too bad for them when they choose their own enslavement. But ultimately Canada is only interesting to me because of their hunting and fishing opportunities.
I just don't see how this is at all, in any way, "Trump's Fault". People just hate Trump. This is 1000% the fault of the voters of Canada. They can get what they deserve, which a less freedom, a lack of military and a decreasing economy that is already worse than every single state in America. OH, and not being able to get an MRI for a Brain tumor for over a year.
Trump got rid of Trudeau, the rest was up to Canadians. The Libs had the deck pretty stacked and the Conservatives really don't have a candidate capable of leading.
I would guess that a factor at least as big as President Trump shooting his mouth off is the adept and positively Machiavellian way the Liberals rebranded themselves by sending Castro Jr. to the bench and bringing in a fresh face. Never underestimate the Left when it comes to politics - it’s all they care about.
Donald Trump says 'a Liberal' would be 'easier to deal with' than Pierre Poilievre
The U.S. president delivered a jab at Poilievre while on Fox News on Tuesday, saying the 'the Conservative that’s running is, stupidly, no friend of mine'
I remember reading a long time ago - I think it was in the NY Times, so it had to be a long time ago - an article on how conformist and rule-observant Canadians were. One example mentioned in the article of this trait was Canadians' refusal to "cross against the light", i.e. they wouldn't cross the street when the red light was against them even if there was no traffic in sight. I've been to Canada (Kingston, Montreal, Niagara Falls, and Quebec City) numerous times but I don't recall noticing this. Can anyone here tell me whether this is the case?
As an aside, I did notice this in San Francisco when lived there (1991-1996). It kind of makes sense that San Franciscans had this attitude. I would get comments there when I crossed against the light.
Hmmm... when I first moved to SF where my sister lived, she warned me about breaking for a yellow light, for fear I would be rear-ended. And yes, I learned in San Francisco (1987 - 1992) that lights were Green, light-Green and Red.
And then there is walking in Boston, where lights don't matter -- both pedestrians and drivers push the limits.
I'm compelled to quote Abraham Lincoln: "Elections belong to the people. It's their decision. If they decide to turn their backs on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters."
Umm, no.
I'm a Canadian; well, sort of - I'm actually an Albertan.
What happened in this election is that Carney ran against Trump rather than for anything - and the media, which are largely controlled by the liberals, applauded everything he did or said while denigrating the conservatives.
Prior to Carney's ascension to the liberal leadership a week before the election was called, the conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre, had a 30 point lead in the polls - which he'd gained by attacking the then current liberal leader: Justin Trudeau rather than by being for anything.
When the liberals replaced Trudeau with an unknown, Poilievre lost
his target and his focus - and didn't have the guts to do the obvious: embrace
Trumpism, blame the country's problems on the liberals, and promise a freer, more
prosperous, Canada. Instead he vacillated: Canada great rah rah, orange man bad, bad,
bad; all problems to be solved by magic no oxen to be gored.
Bottom line: Carney will quickly agree to renegotiate a trade deal with the US without Mexican participation; Canada will pretend to do something about drugs; money laundering; and Defence; and the slide to "Wanalta - the 51st state" will gradually acccellerate as both Alberta and Saskatchewan push provincial political and economic self-determination to the point of making central Canada's politics irrelevant here.
John Carter of Barsoom has a similar take published today.
Thanks for the update. I was asking about that 51st state idea.
If I read the results correctly, Albertans elected 34 Conservative MPs out of 37. Alberta is more conservative than Florida. What would or could Canada do about it if Albertans decided to join the U.S as our 51st state?
https://globalnews.ca/news/11154507/canada-election-2025-alberta-results/
I suggest we open up an NCAA-like "transfer portal" where contiguous counties in the US and Canada can opt to switch sides. Once a country switches sides, a contiguous county in the US or Canada would be "portal eligible".
Just think how this could play out -- chunks of Minnesota and Washington might op out. This could put sections of of blue Oregon and Wisconsin in play. If the right sections of Wisconsin choose to go Canadian, we could give off Chicago - a fiscal debacle in the making. VT goes in an instant when Bernie sees he could get nationalized health care.
On the flip side, Alberta and many parts of the Canadian "Midwest" could get the type of political system they yearn for. Yes, health care is more complicated, but they'll figure it out.
Realignment is here. Let's let the citizens decide.
Poilievre lost his own constituency. How good a party leadership candidate was he? The largest minor party candidate also lost his constituency. Why did the Quebec party lose seats?
Did that many Canadians decide that a pro-Liberal vote to defeat Trump was the most important issue?
I think more is going on then than the flash analysis.
Keep in mind Carney was quickly dropping in the polls. Had he needed to run as a long a race as Harris, he too many have lost.
There are a lot of good people in Canada that are suffering, not because of Trump, but because of the leadership they select. Its hard to feel too bad for them when they choose their own enslavement. But ultimately Canada is only interesting to me because of their hunting and fishing opportunities.
I just don't see how this is at all, in any way, "Trump's Fault". People just hate Trump. This is 1000% the fault of the voters of Canada. They can get what they deserve, which a less freedom, a lack of military and a decreasing economy that is already worse than every single state in America. OH, and not being able to get an MRI for a Brain tumor for over a year.
Trump got rid of Trudeau, the rest was up to Canadians. The Libs had the deck pretty stacked and the Conservatives really don't have a candidate capable of leading.
I would guess that a factor at least as big as President Trump shooting his mouth off is the adept and positively Machiavellian way the Liberals rebranded themselves by sending Castro Jr. to the bench and bringing in a fresh face. Never underestimate the Left when it comes to politics - it’s all they care about.
Had Trump not injected himself into Canadian politics and patriotism, the Conservatives would have won easily.
There is a time to shut up.
BS
Such an intelligent reply.
https://babylonbee.com/news/canada-surpasses-california-as-state-with-most-liberal-governor
Excellent.
https://www.steynonline.com/15249/losers-gotta-lose
Donald Trump says 'a Liberal' would be 'easier to deal with' than Pierre Poilievre
The U.S. president delivered a jab at Poilievre while on Fox News on Tuesday, saying the 'the Conservative that’s running is, stupidly, no friend of mine'
I remember reading a long time ago - I think it was in the NY Times, so it had to be a long time ago - an article on how conformist and rule-observant Canadians were. One example mentioned in the article of this trait was Canadians' refusal to "cross against the light", i.e. they wouldn't cross the street when the red light was against them even if there was no traffic in sight. I've been to Canada (Kingston, Montreal, Niagara Falls, and Quebec City) numerous times but I don't recall noticing this. Can anyone here tell me whether this is the case?
As an aside, I did notice this in San Francisco when lived there (1991-1996). It kind of makes sense that San Franciscans had this attitude. I would get comments there when I crossed against the light.
Hmmm... when I first moved to SF where my sister lived, she warned me about breaking for a yellow light, for fear I would be rear-ended. And yes, I learned in San Francisco (1987 - 1992) that lights were Green, light-Green and Red.
And then there is walking in Boston, where lights don't matter -- both pedestrians and drivers push the limits.
We're both sharing anecdotes.