The bottom line on foreign policy and morality (or justice) is this: if a nation does not care for the interests of its own citizens, who will do it?
If our nation must devote itself to the welfare of other nations, will those other nations look to our welfare? Certainly not. This is what Plato was addressing in your last quotation. The United Nations does not care for the good of US citizens. It sees the citizens of one nation as the piggy bank with which to buy the support of other nations.
The idea that a just society benefits from other just societies around it is sound, but a lot of good can still be done locally regardless. Nations, like people, need freedom to do their own constructive experiments. Settled politics is as mythical as settled science.
It is ironic that Bush's noble internationalism ends with us supporting a non-democratic Ukraine against a non-democratic Russia. Is there a real election anywhere on the horizon?
Can you offer any documented evidence about this old accusation? What did GWB ever take from Saudi Arabia that was of personal benefit, as opposed to beneficial to the US?
Look up "Bandar Bush" and all the Bush family's relationships with the Saudi royal family.
This is not to say that GWB personally cashed in. Did you ever wonder why the Saudis were left out of US retaliation for 9/11? Instead. they were treated as a US ally.
Someone tell Steve that CrackerJacks has no cool prizes any longer- all you ever get is a sticker. I think it is the post-COVID inflation decoder ring crisis.
The bottom line on foreign policy and morality (or justice) is this: if a nation does not care for the interests of its own citizens, who will do it?
If our nation must devote itself to the welfare of other nations, will those other nations look to our welfare? Certainly not. This is what Plato was addressing in your last quotation. The United Nations does not care for the good of US citizens. It sees the citizens of one nation as the piggy bank with which to buy the support of other nations.
Is today's EU really in the Free World?
The idea that a just society benefits from other just societies around it is sound, but a lot of good can still be done locally regardless. Nations, like people, need freedom to do their own constructive experiments. Settled politics is as mythical as settled science.
Great last line, the only settled end state is death. True in economics as well.
It is ironic that Bush's noble internationalism ends with us supporting a non-democratic Ukraine against a non-democratic Russia. Is there a real election anywhere on the horizon?
He had no problem with absolute monarchs in Arabia, who happened to own his family.
Can you offer any documented evidence about this old accusation? What did GWB ever take from Saudi Arabia that was of personal benefit, as opposed to beneficial to the US?
Look up "Bandar Bush" and all the Bush family's relationships with the Saudi royal family.
This is not to say that GWB personally cashed in. Did you ever wonder why the Saudis were left out of US retaliation for 9/11? Instead. they were treated as a US ally.
You seriously believe that Ukraine is in the same democracy class as Putin's Russia?
Someone tell Steve that CrackerJacks has no cool prizes any longer- all you ever get is a sticker. I think it is the post-COVID inflation decoder ring crisis.