I could not STAND the Meathead character and I was a "social activist" left-liberal at the time. Why? Because I was an activist who WORKED for a living and didn't live off Daddy while mocking everything he stood for. As Lloyd agrees, I think Reiner became a terrific director. In fact, there is no way I can get my head around work he did with the movie Princess Bride with the deranged, nasty, mean lunatic Reiner became.
If ever we saw a better motivation for President Trump to take out drug boats, I cannot think of one. An addicted boy from age 15, in "rehab" 17-18 times, so out of it he murdered both his parents (allegedly) should be Exhibit A for motivating Trump's actions.
Also, parenthetically, how about an investigation of those "rehab" joints? Thousands of dollars a MONTH for the elite ones -- and he never came close to "rehabilitation." What's up with that? AG
Dear friend, an addict has to decide that he wants to quit. If he wants to quit, he will - or to put it another way, the rehab will be successful. If he is forced to go to rehab, that's like trying to empty the Atlantic with a tablespoon. The amount they charge or the new exciting strategies they employ will have no effect whatsoever.
Which is why the cost of drugs must increase significantly. Dealers must be shot. Boats must be sunk. Immigration must be restricted. Imports must be controlled. Origin countries must be forced to end production, etc. It is an existential threat and should be treated as one.
I believe it's a mental health problem that is not helped by trying to use the criminal law. I'd go at it the other way - no welfare unless you're clean, employers may test, public safety workers like truckers must test, landlords allowed to immediately evict for drug use. Make the users miserable.
Only the hard core drug users would be left, and soon they would be dead, which tends to take the romance out of it, unlike prohibition, which suddenly makes drugs look cool and edgy. We need to try something new, what we're doing isn't working.
As a junior high kid watching All in the Family, I never heard an argument that I thought meathead or the daughter (name?) ever won. It looked to me like equal opportunity lampooning— every character was played for lovable laughs. Except I never thought meathead was lovable. Just a moron. I’m not dancing on his grave, but he was actually a real life meathead, but nastier
All In The Family was always ragging on Archie as being the jerk, while Meathead was supposed to be the smart guy. He could not, however, support himself and his wife, Archie's daughter Gloria and ended up living in Archie's house and eating the food that Archie worked hard to buy for the family. Archie was the smartest one in the family. He knew a meathead when he saw one.
The "broad minded" intellectual meathead didn't have a lovable bone in his body. Whereas everyone could see, and feel, the "narrow minded" Archie was emotionally soft as a marsh-mellow underneath that rough exterior. What was Lear thinking? Seems lefties are always shooting themselves in the foot.
Perhaps I'm sane because I don't inhabit the rarified halls of "Hollywood", but I don't understand why libs who are idiots like Reiner get a pass from everyone for being a nice guy even though he was was a raving progressive lunatic whereas conservative icons like Charlton Heston go to their grave as evil, Moses or no Moses. Maybe Reagan was (sort of) the exception.
Reagan was the beneficiary of the 'Latest Hitler' rule which rehabilitates a dead Republican as somebody the Left could respect unlike the current reincarnation of Hitler, even though the deceased was the subject of similar vile slanders during their life. Can also happen when a GOP politician is no longer politically active, ala W, or when they chose to actively oppose others in their claimed party, like Romney, McCain, and the Cheney clan.
I'll add that without Christians, there probably wouldn't have been an American Revolution as we know it. Heck, since a large part of the impetus for some of the original colonies was Christians wanting to worship more freely than they could in Europe, America wouldn't have existed in the same form.
I will assert that it was the coming of The Christ that has enabled the earthly progress (technology allowing living in vastly improved conditions than EVER before) in the 2000 plus years that we see today. Goes along with what you cite, but I'm taking a much wider perspective. We didn't arrive here overnight, either, it has taken a lot to get here on many fronts ...
I have not read "The Naked Public Square", but the statement that "if not for Christians there would have been no anti-slavery movement, no women’s suffrage movement, and no civil-rights movement" got me to read the Amazon reviews of the book.
The author makes the point that, even in an America with both believers and non-believers, the Judeo-Christian foundations of our morality have been vitally important and enduring and essential for the ethic, and the culture, and even a largely unwritten but very real "social contract" that Americans count on to make this very diverse country work.
But this underlying sense of right and wrong is being eroded by factors we see every day. One reviewer stated this: "In 'The Naked Public Square' relativism takes over and there is no right or wrong. Neuhaus says that this opens the door to totalitarianism where the State becomes the church. " Doesn't this sound familiar?
And what did the Democrats think would happen when millions of people of unknown origin, poor education and alien cultures were allowed to sweep in and take over our streets and absorb the spaces and the charity and the wealth that we created for ourselves?
THAT was indeed the short-term expectation. But long term - something that the Left never thinks of , doesn't care about or probably hopes for - is a radical transformation of our country into a chaotic mess that will justify the takeover by a totalitarian regime supported by a population so frightened by the rhetoric of the Left that they beg for Big Brother, always of course assuming that they themselves will not be the victims. In short, Alinsky's dream.
An apt comment indeed, Bonnie. I believe that many of those currently on the Left are more interested in wielding power, influence, and money — they don’t really care if the system becomes Big Brother because they are always plotting to move with the system and stay power brokers.
Lucy - like Animal Farm, they think they will always be the Pigs in Power. But as you say, in systems like those, someone is always one step ahead, plotting quietly to take power and undermining all but their own close associates - who will be the next in line to betray the rest and take over. No wonder they are all so paranoid. Nothing in their lives is solid and true.
I loved Family Ties for one reason & one reason only: Alex P Keaton.
Even though he was made the butt of many jokes and made to look the greedy meanie, IMO he was clearly the sane, rational, living in reality one. The question is: was he unintentionally or subversively based?
Another irony that escapes liberals is this. A great percentage of the founders of the NAACP were Jewish. They knew how bad it was to be discriminated against and wanted to support their black brothers.
All too many blacks in the US repaid the debt by becoming virulent antisemites.
I think Oscar Wilde had it right when he said “Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life.” The harbinger of where we find ourselves today was not All in the Family but the odious Married…. with Children in the late 80s. No more cynical, degrading, or disgusting portrayal of family life comes to mind for me.
Well, Jimmy, I watched HALF of one episode and never again. It must have appealed to SOMEONE, sadly. Same with "Two and A Half Men". We do have SOME "hand" in whether television series succeed -- it's called the "OFF" button on the remote. Seeing your name reminds me of a group of great Christian singers "Brothers of the Heart" led by Jimmy Fortune. YouTube it, they are great! (And I'm Jewish!) AG
I wonder how happy the family was over the years. Rob’s incredible directing streak ended a few years into the marriage for reasons that I don’t understand and never restarted. I have yet to see a photo of Michelle smiling.
Seeing All in the Family now is fascinating. It has aged terribly. Archie a Republican? Or at least occurding to the show he was. I grew up in Queens, He was a union worker. He voted Democrat. Please. Dishonest show. Maude was worse. But that has nothing to do with Rob Reiner.
I think the original Father Knows Least (although maybe not technically a father??) was Jackie Gleason in TJGShow (1952-70). It wasn't watched much in my household growing up--too raucous. And then it was imitated by The Flintstones and The Jetsons--same basic characters in the Stone Age and the Jet Age. 2 dumb men and 2 smart, long-enduring wives. Those had my full attention:)
I could not STAND the Meathead character and I was a "social activist" left-liberal at the time. Why? Because I was an activist who WORKED for a living and didn't live off Daddy while mocking everything he stood for. As Lloyd agrees, I think Reiner became a terrific director. In fact, there is no way I can get my head around work he did with the movie Princess Bride with the deranged, nasty, mean lunatic Reiner became.
If ever we saw a better motivation for President Trump to take out drug boats, I cannot think of one. An addicted boy from age 15, in "rehab" 17-18 times, so out of it he murdered both his parents (allegedly) should be Exhibit A for motivating Trump's actions.
Also, parenthetically, how about an investigation of those "rehab" joints? Thousands of dollars a MONTH for the elite ones -- and he never came close to "rehabilitation." What's up with that? AG
Dear friend, an addict has to decide that he wants to quit. If he wants to quit, he will - or to put it another way, the rehab will be successful. If he is forced to go to rehab, that's like trying to empty the Atlantic with a tablespoon. The amount they charge or the new exciting strategies they employ will have no effect whatsoever.
Everyone in the courtroom knows this.
Which is why the cost of drugs must increase significantly. Dealers must be shot. Boats must be sunk. Immigration must be restricted. Imports must be controlled. Origin countries must be forced to end production, etc. It is an existential threat and should be treated as one.
I believe it's a mental health problem that is not helped by trying to use the criminal law. I'd go at it the other way - no welfare unless you're clean, employers may test, public safety workers like truckers must test, landlords allowed to immediately evict for drug use. Make the users miserable.
Only the hard core drug users would be left, and soon they would be dead, which tends to take the romance out of it, unlike prohibition, which suddenly makes drugs look cool and edgy. We need to try something new, what we're doing isn't working.
I like it! Do both.
As a junior high kid watching All in the Family, I never heard an argument that I thought meathead or the daughter (name?) ever won. It looked to me like equal opportunity lampooning— every character was played for lovable laughs. Except I never thought meathead was lovable. Just a moron. I’m not dancing on his grave, but he was actually a real life meathead, but nastier
All In The Family was always ragging on Archie as being the jerk, while Meathead was supposed to be the smart guy. He could not, however, support himself and his wife, Archie's daughter Gloria and ended up living in Archie's house and eating the food that Archie worked hard to buy for the family. Archie was the smartest one in the family. He knew a meathead when he saw one.
The "broad minded" intellectual meathead didn't have a lovable bone in his body. Whereas everyone could see, and feel, the "narrow minded" Archie was emotionally soft as a marsh-mellow underneath that rough exterior. What was Lear thinking? Seems lefties are always shooting themselves in the foot.
It was ironic that the majority of Americans felt that Archie was the sympathetic character.
Perhaps I'm sane because I don't inhabit the rarified halls of "Hollywood", but I don't understand why libs who are idiots like Reiner get a pass from everyone for being a nice guy even though he was was a raving progressive lunatic whereas conservative icons like Charlton Heston go to their grave as evil, Moses or no Moses. Maybe Reagan was (sort of) the exception.
Reagan was the beneficiary of the 'Latest Hitler' rule which rehabilitates a dead Republican as somebody the Left could respect unlike the current reincarnation of Hitler, even though the deceased was the subject of similar vile slanders during their life. Can also happen when a GOP politician is no longer politically active, ala W, or when they chose to actively oppose others in their claimed party, like Romney, McCain, and the Cheney clan.
Perhaps you don't recall how Dems and their media allies talked about Reagan.
I'll add that without Christians, there probably wouldn't have been an American Revolution as we know it. Heck, since a large part of the impetus for some of the original colonies was Christians wanting to worship more freely than they could in Europe, America wouldn't have existed in the same form.
I will assert that it was the coming of The Christ that has enabled the earthly progress (technology allowing living in vastly improved conditions than EVER before) in the 2000 plus years that we see today. Goes along with what you cite, but I'm taking a much wider perspective. We didn't arrive here overnight, either, it has taken a lot to get here on many fronts ...
Some British guy named Wilberforce did more to end slavery than anyone else.
I have not read "The Naked Public Square", but the statement that "if not for Christians there would have been no anti-slavery movement, no women’s suffrage movement, and no civil-rights movement" got me to read the Amazon reviews of the book.
The author makes the point that, even in an America with both believers and non-believers, the Judeo-Christian foundations of our morality have been vitally important and enduring and essential for the ethic, and the culture, and even a largely unwritten but very real "social contract" that Americans count on to make this very diverse country work.
But this underlying sense of right and wrong is being eroded by factors we see every day. One reviewer stated this: "In 'The Naked Public Square' relativism takes over and there is no right or wrong. Neuhaus says that this opens the door to totalitarianism where the State becomes the church. " Doesn't this sound familiar?
And what did the Democrats think would happen when millions of people of unknown origin, poor education and alien cultures were allowed to sweep in and take over our streets and absorb the spaces and the charity and the wealth that we created for ourselves?
They KNEW what would happen. Cloward-Piven was taking too long.
They knew they would get voters very loyal to continued corruption, favoritism, and graft - IOW voters who would always vote Democrat.
THAT was indeed the short-term expectation. But long term - something that the Left never thinks of , doesn't care about or probably hopes for - is a radical transformation of our country into a chaotic mess that will justify the takeover by a totalitarian regime supported by a population so frightened by the rhetoric of the Left that they beg for Big Brother, always of course assuming that they themselves will not be the victims. In short, Alinsky's dream.
An apt comment indeed, Bonnie. I believe that many of those currently on the Left are more interested in wielding power, influence, and money — they don’t really care if the system becomes Big Brother because they are always plotting to move with the system and stay power brokers.
Lucy - like Animal Farm, they think they will always be the Pigs in Power. But as you say, in systems like those, someone is always one step ahead, plotting quietly to take power and undermining all but their own close associates - who will be the next in line to betray the rest and take over. No wonder they are all so paranoid. Nothing in their lives is solid and true.
Certainly not their political philosophy.
I think they do care about it - when they're not just hoping for it. I've always believed Big Brother would eventually step in to keep us "safe".
No tyrant contemplates his mortality, until the knife is at his throat.
I loved Family Ties for one reason & one reason only: Alex P Keaton.
Even though he was made the butt of many jokes and made to look the greedy meanie, IMO he was clearly the sane, rational, living in reality one. The question is: was he unintentionally or subversively based?
Another irony that escapes liberals is this. A great percentage of the founders of the NAACP were Jewish. They knew how bad it was to be discriminated against and wanted to support their black brothers.
All too many blacks in the US repaid the debt by becoming virulent antisemites.
NAACP was, and remains, a Marxist operation. The cover was merely a cover.
I think Oscar Wilde had it right when he said “Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life.” The harbinger of where we find ourselves today was not All in the Family but the odious Married…. with Children in the late 80s. No more cynical, degrading, or disgusting portrayal of family life comes to mind for me.
Well, Jimmy, I watched HALF of one episode and never again. It must have appealed to SOMEONE, sadly. Same with "Two and A Half Men". We do have SOME "hand" in whether television series succeed -- it's called the "OFF" button on the remote. Seeing your name reminds me of a group of great Christian singers "Brothers of the Heart" led by Jimmy Fortune. YouTube it, they are great! (And I'm Jewish!) AG
Those two shows should be labeled "sickcoms" instead of "sitcoms".
I wonder how happy the family was over the years. Rob’s incredible directing streak ended a few years into the marriage for reasons that I don’t understand and never restarted. I have yet to see a photo of Michelle smiling.
Seeing All in the Family now is fascinating. It has aged terribly. Archie a Republican? Or at least occurding to the show he was. I grew up in Queens, He was a union worker. He voted Democrat. Please. Dishonest show. Maude was worse. But that has nothing to do with Rob Reiner.
I think the original Father Knows Least (although maybe not technically a father??) was Jackie Gleason in TJGShow (1952-70). It wasn't watched much in my household growing up--too raucous. And then it was imitated by The Flintstones and The Jetsons--same basic characters in the Stone Age and the Jet Age. 2 dumb men and 2 smart, long-enduring wives. Those had my full attention:)